Question how do you guys usually get your concentrated sulfuric acid and hyrochloric acid?
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Drain clear is a good one but sometimes it’s green or red you have to add hydrogen peroxide to get rid of the colour then boil off hydrogen peroxide
for hydrochloric acid Some cleaning companies will sell you it they only as for ID some mite ask for a license but if any of your friends or family have some sort of clean company or work for one you only need the company name
for hydrochloric acid Some cleaning companies will sell you it they only as for ID some mite ask for a license but if any of your friends or family have some sort of clean company or work for one you only need the company name
thank you for the reply
what drain cleaner brand do you prefer?
what drain cleaner brand do you prefer?
La-aa-nd of the free!!! and the home of the brave! I can get 37% and 95% at the hardware store, don't even need ID
- By jade52
you are truly blessed ,fuckkkkk envy you.
US right?
US right?
come on, everybody gets in free. Trump hasnt even put a dent on the aliens here. Come here on vacation and never leave . Find yourself a partner and marry them and get that green card.
@The-Hive , taxes are voluntary until you pay them the first time. When you pay irt means you agree/accept. Whan it really happens though is when you get a social security card. Thats your tax strawman. Its hard to get rid of if your parents got you one as a baby, but the Amish don't pay any taxes, don't have a social security number, ride around in horse drawn buggies andthe cops dread to even fuck with them because they have no birth certicicate and no SS. cartd, so they don't exist to the governemnet
@The-Hive , taxes are voluntary until you pay them the first time. When you pay irt means you agree/accept. Whan it really happens though is when you get a social security card. Thats your tax strawman. Its hard to get rid of if your parents got you one as a baby, but the Amish don't pay any taxes, don't have a social security number, ride around in horse drawn buggies andthe cops dread to even fuck with them because they have no birth certicicate and no SS. cartd, so they don't exist to the governemnet
Protip; The acid in a car battery is 30-40% sulfuric acid 
- By The-Hive
Doesn’t that also contain lead acetate aswell
I figured I would look it up really quick before I said, and after looking at blown up diagrams of 10 car batteries the trend is lead plates and a led anode, and a lead dioxide, leadsulfoxide or some other lead salt cathode, and sulfuric acid. They all had a little different composition, some hadn a carbon anode, some had a lead-salt anode and cathose, but thet all lhead elemental lead the is sitting in sulfuric acid. That was 3 minutes of looking at 10 diagrams, so I'm sure its not the whole story. After looking harder, the majority of batteries have a spionge lead plate and a lead dioxide plate in dilute H2SO4 and this comprises 1 cell
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Here where I'm from hydrochloric acid is no problem, but regarding to sulfuric acid you can't buy higher then 15% without having some business. It's possible to buy 10% or 14% and purify it, which is quite practicable until some point of concentration. Getting it to 98% by distilling is another thing...
- By jade52
chemistry told me that at some point of concentration, i will get stuck just by distilling them
on my own and wont get desired concentration.(quite nasty process also) it would be best to just buy concentrated product which is not possible from where i live
on my own and wont get desired concentration.(quite nasty process also) it would be best to just buy concentrated product which is not possible from where i live
I've processed 50 liters of 14 % sulfuric acid into distilled batches of strength ranging from 90 to 98 %.
It's trivial to reach 80 % concentration which is the maximum reachable by simply boiling off water. Above 80 % the boiling acid starts producing too much SO3 which negatively impacts the yield. Just heat H2SO4 in a beaker on a hot plate, use a magnetic stir bar to continuously stir the acid (that is extremely important to eliminate bumps and pockets of overheated acid) and just let it go until it reaches 200 °C. You've just got yourself some 80 °C sulfuric acid that is not pure but is sufficient for many applications.
It isn't practical to continue beyond 80 % as the losses will be huge, the yield will be low and the acid will not get any more pure. To achieve pure acid it must be distilled which is doable but quite dangerous. I would never attempt it without glass-coated magnetic stir bars as stirring is critical throughout the process. Ask me if you have specific questions.
It's trivial to reach 80 % concentration which is the maximum reachable by simply boiling off water. Above 80 % the boiling acid starts producing too much SO3 which negatively impacts the yield. Just heat H2SO4 in a beaker on a hot plate, use a magnetic stir bar to continuously stir the acid (that is extremely important to eliminate bumps and pockets of overheated acid) and just let it go until it reaches 200 °C. You've just got yourself some 80 °C sulfuric acid that is not pure but is sufficient for many applications.
It isn't practical to continue beyond 80 % as the losses will be huge, the yield will be low and the acid will not get any more pure. To achieve pure acid it must be distilled which is doable but quite dangerous. I would never attempt it without glass-coated magnetic stir bars as stirring is critical throughout the process. Ask me if you have specific questions.