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Acquiring chemicals that are "hard to get"

Are the problem

What is a safe manner and avoid investigations from drug law enforcements
What is the solution

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Swim wonders if there is a "threshold" safe amount that swim could buy, IN AVOIDING RED FLAGS AND AVOIDING POSSIBLE INVESTIGATION BY LAW ENFORCEMENT


Like for example, buying small amounts (1 Liter -a gallon or 1 kg) of sassafras oil and/or chemical mixture of nitroethane solvent with a fake ID

1 time a year or is Swim good with a few times a year

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No dont even buy under the legal limit because they will still watch you besides sassafras oil contains no safrole nowadays and hasnt for a long long time its as good as dead
 

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Yes your right. LorAnn Sassafras Oil is artificial flavors. The MSDS has NOT a word of "real natural rootbark of Sassafras tree"

*Off topic* if anything what should be "good as dead' should be the pseudoephedrine behind-the-counter... But good clean PSE extraction reveals "those pin-wheels" and the taste has that "bitter" taste of pseudoephedrine and after a LWR of PSE/I/RP reduction gives a euphoric high
It's real PSE alright :)

So why not SOME SOME SOME of Sassafras Oils ?!
SOME gotta be real sassafras rootbark and/or the leaves
 

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Make them yourself or buy from the glorious regime there is always an easier uncontrolled way to make something eg; sulphamic acid for methylamine
 

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just depends on what it is. Acetone is sold as paint stripper, but 5 gallons puta you on a list. potassium permangenate goe in your water softener but don't try to buy 120 lbs of it. MEK is still sold at ace hardware for stripping or thinning paint, but don't try to buy 5 gallons of it. Others 0 is the only amount you can legally get. Check your local laws. Think of something legitiimate you are going to do with it before you click buy
 

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Aromatherapy as a "front-cover"

*Swim needs to find "legitimate reason uses" for these .. got some homework to do

Peace
 

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If I still lived where I grew up, I could produce the shit out of safrol from Sassifras albicans, it'a literally everywhere. I could gather as much as I could carry in a back pack in an hour everyday. 10 lbs in an hour or 2 every day. Soldado could be making a living off of it if he just got motivated. It might be slow at first but within 6 months he could probably be pumping out a liter a day by himself. He hates money though, almost as much as drugs. Weird guy :p
 

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You keep saying that but I have yet to sell any. This Lb I tried to push off on you any everyone else is still sitting here. I guess I will have to distill it, and then whats the next step, and the one after that. Then maybe I can give it to someone. I'll be making a living off it when SWIM learns how to turn it into MD amphetamine.
 

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I just did about 30 minutes of research and on Science madness, one guy said from wood chipped roots 20 lbs, 240 ml of oil(?) if it's 80% thats like 192ml of safrole. 1.28 moles. Others said there is little oil in the wood and theres no oil it the bark above ground. Seems like a tough way to make a liveing, but there's value in extracting and purifying a bit just to be able to say you did. I'm pretty proud that I am the only person I have ever heard of, that has successfully extracted DMT from Illionois bundle flowers. And I collected, idk 5-6 speacies of hallucinogenic mushrooms (not counting muscarinic Amanitas, which I've found probably 5-6 species. Golden seal Spice bush, panax ginseng, black cohosh, Jimson weed, Paw paws, Walnuts, persimmons, ramps, I've eaten probably 40 species of wild mushrooms. Chestnuts, passion flowers, vaious berries and wild animals.......
 

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Strikes book "Sources"



Clandestine Drug Laboratory by Jack B Nimble



Great Books about chemical acquisition, drug police expectations, and chemical precursor + legal relative info ; for an amateur clandestine individual and/or operate a "fake business"
:)



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*Someone should post a thread about "running a fake business"

PLEASE !!

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80% of the time if you tell the science company your a business, then they will "open their arms" for you .

The chemical store outlets won't sell to individuals because it's more of an insurance than just being jack-asses

At first, ask for their catalog list of products, next order simple stuff like a glass beaker and acetic acid. Build a creditential trust before diving in and buying loads of precursors from the start.

Science companies rrreeeaaaallllyyyyyy do want to sell off their products! They want to sell products and make money

The science companies are actually bothered by drug police when asked for sale reports. Those science companies sometimes get threatened close down their science business if there's " some conspiracy connection with drug manufacture" (meth is the biggest target for drug police in the US especially those cold pills)

The science chemical glassware stores get as frustrated as you are Evil Chemist.


The science stores actually DONT try to get you arrested by drug police. It's more of handing off sales reports to the drug police at such a seasonal cycle (by months?)

Of course those List 1 and List 2 are HOT to drug police

There's also a Special Survalence of precursor chemicals



*SOMEBODY START A THREAD ON OPERATING A FAKE BUSINESS*
 

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They don't open thier arms to you when you say you are a business. For one thing, they want an EIN and they won't ship to a residential address so you have to have a commercial receptacle Your going to want some kind of letter of incorperation to obfiscate your strawman a bit. Now that you've got all that, you might as well apply to the DEA for a number to handle these chemicals. And that sir is why there's not many people doing what you are talkiing about
 

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Thank you

Oh, Beeee forth your valuable knowledge of the "fake business" cover that we have read in these clandestine books 📚
Plz
 
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