Нова идея по отношение на избягването на лабораторно откриване.

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Онзи ден някой ми изпрати лично съобщение, в което ме питаше за начините за премахване на неизбежните миризми, свързани с тайните химически лаборатории. Както всеки с опит знае, миризмите, които се получават по време на химични реакции, могат да варират от характерни до направо евтаназийни. Преминах през списъка с обичайните методи, като стария маркуч в тоалетната, настройка с водна завеса, изпускане на изпаренията през комина, за да се замаже произходът и т.н., след което отворих дума за потенциалната ефикасност на една нова идея, която никога не съм виждал на практика. Неусетно на екрана ми се появи продукт в добавка на Amazon в социалните мрежи, който никога преди не бях виждал, и ето го за ваше разглеждане. Керамичен каталитичен горелка. Той е предназначен за печка на дърва и използва произведената от нея топлина за нагряване на катализатора, но мисля, че един 6-инчов елемент за горелка на печка, прикрепен отпред, би работил много добре. Вярвам, че с това в изходната тръба (и елемента на горелката) ще се изпече почти всяка миризма, а катализаторът, горелката и реостатът за контрол на температурата трябва да са под 200 USD чисто нови (а горелката и копчето на печката могат да бъдат безплатни за много от нас). Просто си помислих, че ще представя идеята и ще започна диалог за обсъждане на потенциала.

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Сигурно филтър с активен въглен? като за отглеждане на трева/ това е, което iv видя да работи... пред очите ми вкъщи е/е. Вероятно ахоти, но хей така, не усещам нищо и не съм имал никакви споменавания от съседите! Не и когато съм отглеждал трева или когато съм правил синтези.
 

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Все пак е готино, но също така със сигурност, те ще трябва да са топли реакции, за да се активира? В момента правя много ледено студени реакцииһттр://.... Ще може ли да работи за това? Или имаш предвид да го загрееш отделно...
 

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Да, ще трябва да го загрявате отделно. Мисля, че имах предвид, че горелка за печка на лице може да работи
 

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О, да, виждам, съжалявам. Моя грешка. Доста готино.
Не е ли обаче по същество точно същият начин, по който работят филтрите с активен въглен? Предполагам, че формата на дупките улавя миризмите? Доста готино, така или иначе.
Предполагам, че при филтрите с въглен, ако някой го види, той наистина може да бъде само съмнителен по един или друг начин (предполагам, освен ако не живеете в страна, където ви е позволено да отглеждате собствена трева (където никой няма да знае какво представлява горният елемент!)
 

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No. -ctuivated carbon filters work on the principle that carbon has a lot of surface are to trap bad smells, but it wont stop vapors from poisoning you. This is a catalytic converter like your car has, it uses high heat to break down gaseous acids bases irritants ect, and as a side note it eliminates odors by exposing them to high heat. Id be surprised if a carbon filter would sustain being gassed by hcl for very long
 

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I live where it is legal, and people still use the carbon filters, so their house doesn't smell like weed, so WVERYONE doesn't know they are growing, that can also invite problems , and we had someone stay with us during harvest one time and she left because there was a lot of weed drying everywhere in the house
 

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Two boxes and some spray foam?
 

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A veil cover that allows air ventilation

Activate charcoal (absorb pollution and fumes)

Avoid acquaintances and strangers from having any sort of information knowledge of such a clandestine lab

Do not have your laboratory supplies nor lab chemicals no drugs shipped via parcel mail to the same address that you do your lab cooking

Night time

Invest in a fume hood

Don't have a reason for law enforcement to be knocking on the door of the place where you have your laboratory
 

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One of the hardest lessons I've ever learned."dont make the mistake thinking yours is the first snakeless crew .the world don't give a f*ck about your life or what you're going through "
 

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Would be funny to see if you could just use a cat converter from a car x3
Actually thats not a bad idea
Maybe worth a shot..?
 

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I'm sure it would work if you can get the cats up to temperature. That's the whole trick, in your car the exhaust heats it up to a pretty high temperature. I've heard of people smashing the catalyst and using it in reaction, platinum and pallidium.
 

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Yeah ive used them as is with some vapour phase stuff works great just use a heating strip to get it up 2 temp
 

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We are basically just leading our fumes into a DIY furnace chimney here, no? One could easily set up a succession of various traps to lead and scrub fumes through. Down the drain. Buckets of kitty litter. Other tubes of filter charcoal and what not. High temp is a less popular choice (and one of the better options if you can do it, I think) It would be best to destroy as much 'evidence' as possible on the way out before you try to clean and obscure it before it is dispersed back into the world.
 

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couldnt you also lead the gases into the air intake of a bunsen? Should also work obviously smaller scale though
 

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This is the right idea. IDK if a bunsen would burn hot enough? You want those ridiculously high industrial temps.
 

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You arent gonna get much hotter with this thingy because you're going to have to heat it separately.........probably with a bunsen....

Also look up the temp of a gas flame it is definitely higher than the decomp temp of all possible products in any synthesis really.
 

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I'd say its more about contacting the most surface area, a flame wouldn't be that efficient, but if you had some sort of hot metal screen to blow the air through, ike a catalytic converter has...Setting up to run it down your drain pipe, pushed past the water trap has been the popular way since the 80's. I've known people who go to a hotel and make meth at at the hotel, usinf this method and in thier mind it's safer because thety aren't at home, . I can see benefits of it, but Depending on your situation it may not be any safer. I've caught people cooking meth in a hotel before. People I didn't know. They were lucky it was me who caught them because I acted like I didn't see or smell anything someone else might have turned them in. Matter of fact, its a local hotel and it has been modified to have a secret room where they make meth steadily
 

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Speaking of the devil, just made a post on the legal section with this attachment..

This book is all about avoid lab detection !

GREAT INFO :)
 

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